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category international | the left | non-anarchist press author Sunday April 11, 2010 06:07author by Jan Makandal Report this post to the editors

In the political struggle, it is most important for an organization to constantly define its relationship with the masses. In the case of political struggle in the interest of working people, and particularly in the interest of the working class and all classes that are under domination and under exploitation, there is a fundamental principle that needs to be applied to the relationship of an organization with the masses, with all the classes that constitute the masses. This principle is Mass Line.


On Mass Line


Mass line is a fundamental principle.

In the political struggle, it is most important for an organization to constantly define its relationship with the masses. In the case of political struggle in the interest of working people, and particularly in the interest of the working class and all classes that are under domination and under exploitation, there is a fundamental principle that needs to be applied to the relationship of an organization with the masses, with all the classes that constitute the masses. This principle is Mass Line.

To better understand this fundamental principle, Mass Line, it is important that we take in consideration other important fundamental principles and positions. The ideological emancipation, meaning the appropriation of workers of their theories guiding their struggles against capitalism, could only be achieved, constructed by workers in their autonomous struggle. Another important principle is the role of social agents [humans] in social relations, in particular their roles in economic relations that determine the development of their social consciousness. But, at the same time, it is important that we take in consideration another important aspect: as long there are classes, there will be class struggle at three levels, economic, ideological and political, with the political level as the principal level addressing the struggle for political power. Even when consciousness is determined by the role of agents in social relations, this consciousness is also the result of class struggles. It is the result of social relations. It reflects class domination at all levels, and likewise the resistance to class domination at all levels. To develop, to construct a Mass Line, we must take in consideration these abovementioned principles. A mass line is based on them.

Only the workers can realize their own emancipation

The working people, in particular the working class, must autonomously organize in order to realize their emancipation. They must play their role at all levels, theoretical, ideological and political to achieve emancipation. The emancipation process will start from the work to autonomously organize and from all types and forms of struggle.

Social consciousness is the result of social relations

It reflects class domination and at the same time, it is engendered by the material basis of the class relations. Hence, the social consciousness corresponding to the radical transformation of a social formation finds its material base, its source of struggle, in the class that is most exploited in the social relations. In the capitalist mode of production or in social formations dominated by capitalism and imperialism, we will find this material basis in particular in the working class. Spontaneously, this class-consciousness starts to take form in its most basic primitive form as class instinct. This class instinct, embedded in the social relations, is born out of the contradictory struggle between imposed dominant ideological processes and structures and nascent rebellion against them, in the broader class struggle. As such, it is not yet able to fully develop itself and can even be deformed. This class instinct is at the level of perceptual knowledge and core ideological values stemming from resistance to objective class relations of domination, oppression and exploitation, as the workers start to take consciousness of their situations.

The limit of spontaneous struggles

Class instinct is very concrete and manifests itself in different forms. It’s important to take this level of consciousness seriously in order to develop it in the interest of working people, specifically the proletariat. We must consider class instinct seriously for the following reasons:

We must be clear on its limitations, how far these limitations can take us, on the impact of these limits on the line being offered to workers and the masses. Taking these limits into consideration, clearly class instinct by itself cannot generate the science or the culture needed to guide the revolutionary process through the destruction of the old repressive structures and the construction of the new emancipated structures. Most of the time, these limits don’t even exceed struggle for reforms and reformism.

Spontaneous consciousness needs to be channeled to confront the problematic of destroying the system of domination and exploitation.

If we remain in the limit of spontaneous struggles, we will face many deviations. The possibility for working class struggle to be recuperated is even higher; we are letting ourselves open for the bourgeoisie and the petit bourgeoisie to easily influence working people’s struggles. If the working class remains at the level of spontaneous struggle, the class will develop a tendency for reactive practices that are not thought through and that are not part of an overall tactical and strategic line, which tends to lead finally to economism, terrorism, and populism.

It must clear that a Mass line, the implementation of a Mass line, will be very limited if it does not result from organized work/organized struggle and most importantly a political line. Because of class struggle, organized work/organized struggle doesn’t automatically translate to proletarian work/proletarian alternative. We may find organizations representing themselves as proletarian, communist, Anarchist, Marxist Leninist, Maoist, or Trotskyite that are applying a revisionist line and drowning in deviations. Also, more importantly, inside a genuine proletarian organization, there needs to be a process and a mechanism for struggle between lines and tendencies that originate from these types of deviations: these are the manifestation of class struggle inside the proletarian organization.

To understand the importance of a political line is to understand the importance of theory in guiding proletarian practice, the growth process of knowledge, from empirical, perceptual knowledge to rational knowledge. It requires intellectual labor, with integrity and humility, to recognize when our theory is not validated in order to rectify and consolidate what needs to be consolidated, while also taking into consideration all theoretical assets already available, the theory that has already been developed in the struggle of the working class.

This process involves the appropriation of the general theory by any organization to apply it to the specific reality we aim to transform. Then, the constant uninterrupted process of general/universal to specific, in a constant mode of questioning, rectifying and consolidating so our theory is constantly evolving and deepening, in turn will give a higher level of political line. The development of our theory is in the interest of the proletariat; it must be a collective work, with the utmost advance in proletarian democratic practices, even if in some instances individuals or groups of individuals may have impacted theory and contributed to a leap forward. But, it is only with the fusion/integration of theory in the struggle that theory can be tested and become a material force of the transformations we are aiming for. It is from this fusion/integration that theory is constantly tested, verified and validated so that we can develop a process of interiority of our theory with our class. Through this process, theoretical appropriation really and effectively becomes collective and theory is popularized. Theory should not be the ownership of anyone; the cult of personality needs to be struggled against. Theory is a powerful weapon only when it is applied, developed and appropriated collectively.

The most important requirements of collective appropriation are:

A] A working-class organization, a mass organization based on class interest must be constructed. These organizations must be rooted in the working class and in the masses in order to radically transform social relations. They must remain rooted in the working class and the masses in order to transform these relations. They must develop as the heart and soul of the working class to lead its emancipation through the struggle to transform social relations.

B] The theory guiding the struggle, the praxis of these organizations, the struggle of the workers, the working people and the masses must come from the working class. Taking into consideration because of domination that theory in their interest may not develop spontaneously. These theories, articulated in their own interest, could be blocked, deformed, atrophied and we can even see the masses bringing ideas not in their interest in their midst. This must be countered. We must militate to take the correct ideas, develop these correct ideas, and synthesize these correct ideas in order to constantly elaborate a political line corresponding to the interest of the working class and the fundamental masses at different conjunctures. These ideas must correspond to the interest of the class most fertile to give a most advanced political consciousness, the most revolutionary class in a capitalist dominated social formation: the working class. In order to achieve this goal there must be a dialectical relation between these organizations and the masses, in particular the working class. These organizations must militate from the theory corresponding to the interest of the working class and develop it in the masses and the working class.

The collective organized structure is of utmost importance to the implementation of a Mass Line, from the interest of the working class. Without such an organization, a mass line cannot be implemented. There is a fundamental and dialectical relationship between Mass Line and Democratic Centralism. Without effective democratic centralism within the collective organized structure, the mechanisms to implement Mass line cannot function. Democratic centralism provides the means to coordinate and guide the gathering and circulation of the positions of the masses (stemming from the organization’s militant practice), within the organization. Democratic centralism also enables the process of debate, discussion, and synthesis of an appropriate organizational political line embodying the Mass line. Democratic centralism also provides the means to plan, coordinate and control the application of that line at the mass level by members of the organization and to continue the process of refining, correcting and adapting our political as situations evolve. Keeping in mind these dialectical relationships, we must strive to maintain the determinant role of the Mass Line in its relationship with democratic centralism, and the determinant role of democracy in democratic centralism, even if some situations may call for the other aspects to be dominant at times. Principled class struggle, guided by proletarian principles, is the only guarantor that these mechanisms, as well structured as they may develop to be, do not degenerate into bureaucracy, or its opposite. There is no magic formula, no foolproof way to avoid bureaucracy or its opposite (ultra-democratism), or other organizational deviations. There are no foolproof structures, committees, rules of debate, voting procedures… Fundamentally, these principles and the mechanisms set up to enable their application make up the structural aspects of proletarian organizations, and within the dialectical relationship between structure and practice, play a determinant (but not mechanically dominant) role in enabling democratic processes within proletarian organizations and between proletarian organizations and the dominated classes whose struggles they strive to guide. But we know, as determinant as structures may be, they are all subject to the practices within them. Only the constancy of our class line, empowered by the Mass Line, through our internal struggles, can preserve and consolidate the political direction of our movement.

What is a Mass Line?

A Mass Line is the principle guiding the relation between an organization and the masses, working people as a whole and the working class in particular. This principle determines that we go to the masses to return to the masses. What does that mean? It means we must have organizations rooted in the masses, organizations rooted in the struggle of the masses to go to the masses to return to the masses. It means we must take the correct ideas of the masses, synthesize them, and return them to the masses so the masses can identify with those ideas and apply them to their struggles. It means also to take erroneous ideas coming from the masses, synthesize them, define the correct way to combat them, outside any ultra leftist or opportunist orientation, so collectively the masses can reject these ideas in their struggles. But most importantly, it means to bring those ideas back to the masses so that the masses can exercise control over these organizations that are within their midst, these organizations that are in the mist of their struggles.

In this text, many times we have talked about the working class, working people, and the masses. It is not by accident. This approach is pointing out some very important elements that we must be always conscious of. In the midst of the popular masses, we find different social classes. These social classes have different interests. The position of these social classes, their social relations determine their ideas in general, and their ideas on social problems in particular. In the midst of these social classes, the working class is the only class that has the hegemonic capacity to organize, forge unity through struggle and bring the revolutionary project to maturity. The social nature of other popular classes will not enable them carry through to the end. They will only go part way or their struggles will never abolish class domination; their struggle will always be waged under domination. To have an uncompromising Mass Line, it must be implemented under the leadership of the working class. If not, we will deviate into populism/reformism. The only organization that can apply an uncompromising Mass Line is a proletarian organization. The objective of the Mass Line is to construct and solidify the development and the constant transformation of the unity of the people’s camp from the interest of the working class. A Mass line is applicable differently in different social classes, even if the principles are the same. It is fully applicable in the working class; in the other classes, it will be applied so the working class defines and specifies the political line for these classes in the logic of the development/alliance/transformation class alliance from the interest of the working class in order for the working class to address two objectives realities: the struggle against surplus value and people’s political power under the leadership of the working class. In this sense, the Mass line must have a proletarian characteristic in its application, in its content in its objective, by the organization applying it.
What is the requirement to have a synthesis of correct ideas? The requirements are that the organization work constantly, permanently and ardently on theory to delimitate correct ideas to erroneous ideas, domination by the bourgeois class and all reactionaries classes are the root causes for many erroneous ideas circulating among the masses and influencing the masses, including the working class. This synthesis means, starting from theories that correspond to the interest of the working class, to work on ideas/theories in order to bring them politically and theoretically to a higher level. This process must be the result of collective work inside the proletarian organization. This process should not be and must not be top-down. In fact, to talk of the proletarian nature of the organization, bureaucratic practices are to be firmly struggled against, the cult of leaders and reliance on leaders, not to minimize important contribution of individuals, to define the path is the reproduction of bourgeois ideology. The political work of producing new theories must and should always be collective, clearly taking into account the inherent contradictions such as unequal development of militants belonging to the organization. This synthesis is to be guided by three principles: centralization and sharing of experience, centralization and sharing of knowledge, and centralization and sharing of conclusions drawn out of actual militancy. For such synthesis to happen, the organization needs to have the higher form of internal proletarian democratic practices, while at the same demarcating itself from liberalism and bureaucracy. It is from this process that we can bring a correct alternative to the masses and the working class, an alternative historically determined by the level of consciousness with an objective to always bring it to a higher level.

To collect ideas from the masses:

A] If we are starting from scratch, we would need to define the correct way to identify and integrate ongoing struggles and movements or situations that show potential for militancy, depending of organizational capacity. This is also from the objective interest of the working class.

B] If our presence is weak and bleak, we need to construct an embryonic autonomous organization with the objective to construct a mass movement organization.

C] If a Mass organization already exists, it must be constantly consolidated.

In general, there must be or we must work toward articulation between all organized levels. The democratic level/the mass organized level must be dialectically connected, in a relative autonomy, to the proletarian revolutionary level. Mass line must be applicable at all organized levels, in particular at the proletarian revolutionary level. The most correct application at the revolutionary level requires that mass organizations militating at their level first do their own synthetization. We must avoid a dangerous mistake. Mass organizations mustn’t be front organizations of the revolutionary level. It shouldn’t be the driving belt for revolutionary positions even if those positions are politically temporarily diluted. If that happens, Mass line is not applicable, we are outside of the norm to apply and implement Mass Line.

To avoid this danger, it is necessary that we respect the relative autonomy of the mass organization. This autonomy is not a dogma, not a recipe. This autonomy should not be viewed as absolute organizationally. With the presence of proletarian revolutionary militant in the mass organization, the possibility and the necessity of continuous political work, based on persuasion, political rapprochement [unity building] is always there and always constant. The Mass organization should never be forced to implement the position of the revolutionary organization, even if it is correct. What is important and fundamental is for the masses to appropriate and identify really with their positions so theory becomes an objective guide for actions; this is the proletarian process of empowerment.

The proletarian revolutionary organization must do its own autonomous work in the mass movement, propaganda and agitation, determined by what the moment historically requires and what is necessary to develop the capacity of the working class. This will allow the revolutionary organization to be pro-active, not be in the defensive, prepared for what is coming.
It may happen that there is a non-correspondence, even a big non-correspondence, between the positions of the revolutionary organization and those of the majority of the mass organization. They could even be in contradiction to a certain extent. This objectively reflects the level of the mass organization. This reflects its real capacity. The correct solution, for this non-correspondence and/or contradiction, is to respect the democratic level with the application of mass line and to progressively consolidate the mass organization.

Another aspect is for the revolutionary organization to never view itself as isolated. Most likely, the response to isolation could be populism/opportunism. The correct approach is to view the revolutionary level in objective minority and define the correct orientation to surpass it, based on revolutionary integrity.

For the Proletarian Revolutionary level applies Mass Line:

Mass line must have class content and a class interest. The revolutionary level must be aware of the class characteristic of Mass Line. Mass Line must be elaborated from the interest of the working class. It must always allow us to elaborate a political line for the working class and the political line of the working class for others dominated classes. This is not a simple mechanism, and a simple principle; it must be a class position in a general problematic. A principle that is integrated in an a general proletarian problematic where the working class is constantly addressing the problematic of class unity among workers, with others dominated classes, the problematic of its leadership as the only class historically capable of leading society to a new social relation by eventually abolishing wages and classes. In the final analysis, for the revolutionary level to apply Mass Line, it must be done from the perspective of constantly confronting the social problematic emanating from the revolutionary process.

Mass line can’t be applied outside a correct application of democratic centralism. Democracy must be always, in the final analysis, the determining factor. We must be firm on the necessity to implement and apply Mass Line. It is also necessary to wage political and ideological struggle against political and ideological positions preventing a correct methodological approach of Mass Line. In particular, struggle needs to be waged against:

Elitism: contempt for the masses.

Vanguardism: thinking that since we have knowledge we are the leaders, putting totally aside the principle that only the masses make history. Ideas, however advanced, become revolutionary only when the masses appropriate them and ideas are a systematic guide for practice.
Intellectualism: when our ideas become the property of a small circle of individuals or one, delving into theory for the sake of individual promotion, and neglecting practice as a determining aspect.

Bureaucratism: in all its diverse forms, under the basic principle of a non-dialectical relation of democratic centralism, when centralism is not determined by democracy and exists exclusively outside any democratic practices and democratic practices are simply a formality, a rubber-stamping exercise.

At the same time we must struggle against:

Followership: function in a setting of a non-critical analysis perspective. Criticisms are not allowed.

Workerism: not thinking that workers are also under ruling class domination and are reproducing, in their midst, the dominant ideology.

Ultra-democratism: a never-ending process of debate with no synthesis and centralism, so theory never becomes a guide for praxis in the dialectical relation of theory and practice.

Different forms of liberalism where no organizational discipline is respected and practice is done from an individualist method.

Populism: the interest and the role of the working class are not clearly defines. Mass line can’t be applied if the objective direction of the working class is not clearly defined.

It is very important to define the meaning of the leadership of the working class to demystify the myth from empirical/perceptual knowledge drawn out from mostly negative past experiences. It is not to say that the questions raised by many tendencies, Anarchist and other trends for example, are not valid. The questions raised by Anarchists are valid and need to be explored, but their conclusions are, in a sense, biased, sectarian. In this approach, the dialectical process of perceptual knowledge to rational knowledge is very limited and still remains at the level of perceptual knowledge, which they are drawing general conclusions from. This is what makes this demarche (way of proceeding) empirical. Their contributions remain limited and they are not able to really participate and develop proletarian theory, as they should.

Working class leadership is central to determining a correct position in a Mass Line. Mass line is applied in the class alliance of working class with other dominated classes. The form Mass Line is applied, whatever the class it is applied with, requires that we apply it from the objective interest of the working class. The struggles, the demands of others classes, are not totally isolated, don’t becomes issues oriented struggles like we sees now in struggles dominated by NGO’s. These entire struggles are waged in the objective to weaken capitalism and eventually transform society. This is the importance of the objective leadership of the working class. The organization that could concretely implement it is a working class organization at all levels. In a sense, this is a concrete materialization of the objective leadership of the working class but at the same time, allowing to objective materialization of leadership, without deviating to opportunism, reformism and populism. The class alliance under the leadership of the working class is a fundamental principle for the working class. The working class, in the revolutionary process of constructing an alternative to capitalism, has to face two periods dialectically linked with their own sets of contradictions and universalities as well as their specificities. These periods are the pre revolutionary period and the post revolutionary period. These periods are part of a whole, part of two complex realities, where the post revolutionary periods are determinant. How the working class deals with the pre revolutionary periods, the level of unity of the subjective factors with the objective factors will be principal in how the working class will lead society to the abolition of classes and wages. The working class will not be able to achieve its historical objective if it is unable to democratically convince other dominated classes on the objectives and goals of the revolution. This unity can’t be imposed. It needs to be materially constructed in struggle in the class alliance, a complex reality in its self.

In this context, our elaboration of the different levels of organization of the working is quite limited. It is important to point out Mass line is to be applied at all levels of organization of the working class. Certainly, the capacity will be different to implement at the mass level to the revolutionary level. The proletarian revolutionary organization needs to be well aware of the inherent limitation of the mass level and do what is necessary for a correct and just implementation of the mass line at the mass level. The application of mass line at the mass level does objectively open the field for many deviations. The nature of the mass/democratic level, the objective limitation of the mass level, a level that is functioning under the limitation of domination, a level that historically aims to enlarge bourgeois democratic rights even with the objective to weaken the bourgeoisie, is still limited and puts us in a situation to face these deviations daily and struggle against them without falling into ultra-leftism or reformism. One the correct ways to deal with that objective reality is a combination of the autonomous practice of the revolutionary level and maintaining a militant presence at the mass level and doing the necessary political work to raise the political consciences of the workers, the masses and the mass organization. The autonomous practice of the revolutionary level is to construct representativity in the masses in general in order to transform, to destroy and in order to offer alternatives to the old forms of society.

The working class is not a strictly national class. The working class is an international class that reproduces itself in each specific social formation and each class in each social formation needs to build relations between themselves. The historical objective of the working class depends fundamentally on those relations. This is the reason it is an international class. Besides that, the stage of imperialism puts us face to face with another global objective reality, in this reality, a global working class. The working class, in each social formation, must ardently work to build relations based on the principle of unity-struggle-unity with workers from other social formations. The unity of the international working class is fundamental in defeating capitalism and imperialism. Unity in struggle must be constructed in the international proletariat. One of the principal elements for that unity to be building is the unity on the lessons learned from previous practices, positive or negative, of the international proletariat. Again, the three C’s abovementioned must be applied from the dialectical relation of specific to general and general to specific.

Mass line in the context of the development of proletarian theory at the international level
Some tendencies may label this presentation as Maoist presentation, as part of Maoism since we are using a concept defended by Mao. They may try to stay they agree but the concept is ill utilized. The may even go as far as staying we are using the wrong concept to define a political orientation. They may stay this eclecticism. From the start let’s clearly state that this is not the case. The working class must learn correctly from the experience of the Chinese masses, and the international working class must be clear on the question of Mass Line.
Let’s be precise. Before Mao, other revolutionary militants defended the principle of Mass line. The revolutionary practice of the Chinese people, in particular Mao, deepened this principle. Even with the contribution of Mao, Mass line can’t be the property of Mao. Mass line needs to become the collective property of the working class, and guiding the class, in all social formations to defeat capital and addressing all contradictions the working class faces in building unity with other dominated classes and defining the means, in that unity, to achieve its historical goals. We must, as well reject, all unilateral criticism of the revolutionary experience of the Chinese people. The experience of the revolutionary peoples of China is quite problematic, this is what has led the social formation into the problems facing them now. Unilateral rejection or to just label the experiences as Maoism will not only help us understand the problems and will not help the international proletariat learn and define correct practices to overcome these limitations. WE MUST RECOGNIZE, WITHOUT ANY OPPORTUNISM, THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MAO.

To equate the victory of the bureaucratic bourgeoisie in China to a simple coup d’etat is simply masking the real problems, and worse, it will never allow us to understand the fundamental reasons of the reversal in the transformation of the Chinese social formation. The Chinese proletariat is facing new battles necessary to wage in the development of Chinese imperialism. The Chinese proletariat will need to learn from the experiences of the Proletarian Cultural Revolution in order not to develop paternalistic relations, based on a cult of personality, as they did with Mao. At the same time, we must deepen the assets of the Chinese revolution and render them universal for the international proletariat. In order to do that the international proletariat must rupture with Maoism, a brand of populism, reproducing the same cult of personality benefiting radical petit bourgeois class interests and their reproduction. We must also debunk the notion that Maoism is a new stage of proletarian theory. We are in the same stage for the last 90 years or so.

We are in the period of imperialism and proletarian revolution. All stages in proletarian theory must correspond to a new stage to proletarian struggle internationally. It is certain, the Bolshevik revolution, the Chinese revolution, and the Vietnamese revolution are enclosed in a stage and the need to enter a new stage is present. We have enough elements in the struggle of the international proletariat to do so, but our experiences are limited, very limited. Much more needs to be accomplished by the international proletariat to really enter a new stage. One the important contradictions that new stage needs to overcome, is the constant search for an individual, a revolutionary militant to associate, as essential, to associate with that stage. We almost had this with Gonzalo of Peru. The thought process of identifying an individual as representing a new stage is deeply flawed, presenting theoretical positions as dogma, enshrining the positive as well as the negative aspects of their contributions, to be quoted from to validate our arguments. This is completely anti proletarian. If we take the Peruvian experience as an example, this was clearly a complete fabrication of petit bourgeois wild imagination.

It is important, from the conception of proletarian internationalism, to work, to develop theory from a collective conception, even if, at times, some ideas do originate from particular individuals. This individual origination is irrelevant, accidental, besides being historically determined by broader social forces. The collective development of proletarian revolutionary theory is what is corresponds to the class nature of the proletariat. This is what is corresponds to communism. We must overcome the form and limitations that all the previous stages took, that corresponded to previous levels of capitalism, and the form proletarian struggles took, and the maturity of these proletarian struggles.

We must work for our theory to be collective.

We must apply Mass Line from the interest of the working class.

author by toddpublication date Tue Apr 13, 2010 21:18author address author phone Report this post to the editors

there are important things here, and it is pretty developed. i'm not commenting on what i agree with, but with the things we differ on.

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appropriation & construction of ideology- I think you are nt clear enough in your language, your position vascillates between two and I don't think you intend it to. On the one hand you say the working class needs to construct it's own ideology, and it must be done by the class itself. That is right. On the other hand you have the concept of mass line where the organization is to bring ideology to the class, refine it dialectically through the mass line, and get the class to appropriate it. This is Mao's concept of mass line by a vanguard party, and it leads to bureaucratism. Rather than being dialectical that relationship is one of dependence by the class, and intellectual-domination by the party. I don't think you intend that, but as written both are there.

Instead we need a concept of a dialectical relationship between the class and revolutionary organizations, where the class constructs its own ideology and the revolutionary organizations are a part of the class, and themselves being transformed in those struggles. This is different from Mao's mass line because the party is not the sole owner of ideology, it is a part of the masses and transformed by the masses. We must recognize that we are not the only source of ideology, and the working class must create its own ideology for revolution. Mao's concept required the ownership of ideology by the party, we need to go beyond that to ownership by the class (which by the way has been argued for by council communists, left communists, and anarchists for over 100 years before mass line was proposed).

economy determining ideology- economic relations don't determine consciousness. they inform and influence consciousness, but there isn't straight determining going on. workers get all kinds of ideas, bosses too. As a whole in society, we can make generalizations about groups (classes), but we need to understand class as a process in history and not a timeless objective reality. Class is becoming, and as such does not determine but is born, reformed, and recomposed. Economic relations are woven throughout society and are tied to practically everything, but those relations are so complex they have different effects at different moment and for different groups and individuals and can't simply determine.

most exploited- To claim that what makes the working class what it is is its levels of exploitation is to miss something fundamental about class.. The most exploited are lumpen or in some cases peasants. class doesn't equal worst off, poorest, or most exploited. Class is about objective relations of production in the economy. it is theoretically possible for independent business people in some instances to be more exploited than workers (this happens in some cases in places like india); that wouldn't make them the leaders of ideology though. This is mistaken, what makes the working class the potential leaders of the future isn't how bad off they are, but their position in society which opens the door for the liberation of all.

mass line & democratic centralism- The problem with changing the concepts but keeping the name is unneeded confusion.

"The Sixth Party Congress of the Russian Social-Democratic Labor Party (Bolsheviks) held at Petrograd between July 26 and August 3 1917 defined democratic centralism as follows:

1. That all directing bodies of the Party, from top to bottom, shall be elected;
2. That Party bodies shall give periodical accounts of their activities to their respective Party organizations;
3. That there shall be strict Party discipline and the subordination of the minority to the majority;
4. That all decisions of higher bodies shall be absolutely binding on lower bodies and on all Party members."

#4 is important. You ignore it, but that's what made democratic centralism centralist. Without it, it's just democratic. We need to be honest about our use of concepts. You don't have a democratic centralist concept, you have a different one. That's fine, but be honest about it. Say "i've changed the meaning of these concepts to revise and update them, but feel the need to keep the terms out of a desire to contest the concept".

The problem with this is you're effectively giving voice to concepts which were the means by which the bureaucracy wrestled control away from the working class. Democratic centralism and mass line were tools of a new ruling class to repress the autonomous organization of the working class. Having all decisions by central committees binding without consent of the base was a repressive tool against worker opposition. Mass line was repressive tool for manipulating the ideology of the workers to consolidate power by the party against autonomous worker organizing. It is dishonest to change these concepts from their original meaning while pretending its the same, and its dangerous to give voice to the repressive tools of bureaucratic ruling class.

sectarianism and vagueness against anarchism- you say:

"It is very important to define the meaning of the leadership of the working class to demystify the myth from empirical/perceptual knowledge drawn out from mostly negative past experiences. It is not to say that the questions raised by many tendencies, Anarchist and other trends for example, are not valid. The questions raised by Anarchists are valid and need to be explored, but their conclusions are, in a sense, biased, sectarian. In this approach, the dialectical process of perceptual knowledge to rational knowledge is very limited and still remains at the level of perceptual knowledge, which they are drawing general conclusions from. This is what makes this demarche (way of proceeding) empirical. Their contributions remain limited and they are not able to really participate and develop proletarian theory, as they should."

ok, so you make a critique without saying what questions anarchist raise or what is valid, and then critique those anyway. This is sectarian. You should at least give voice to what you're criticizing instead of just having a hazy critique based on a name. More substantially you seem to say "hey there were some bad experiences. Anarchists question that, and sure there's some stuff there, but it's basically wrong". First its totally obscure why the anarchist critique is merely perceptual. This seems like a strawman to me. It's hard to say the experiences of the spanish revolution were "perceptual", or the makhnovschina in revolutionary ukraine... Even if this were true, how would this only be true of anarchists, and how would this prevent them from participating in proletarian theory more than anyone else.

This section seems to me to be dismissive of criticizing the soviet experience which is crucial to not repeating some of the worst atrocities in the history of humanity (stalin did kill more workers than hitler i'm sorry to say). It ignores that these critiques are multi-tendency including council communists, left communists, revolutionary socialists, and anarchists.

author by Frank Kabralpublication date Thu Apr 15, 2010 03:26author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Contribution to the debate.

In a broad scale (general theory) other considerations have to be analysed. Here are some of them:

1.The difficulty to produce social consciousness into the working class arises in the possibility of the working class to recognize itself as a class whose fundamental interests are opposite to those of the ruling class. That stage by itself is not sufficient to develop "ideological emancipation". The latter has to be produced not only in class struggle, but also in developing understanding (theorically not ideologicaly) of the nature of the capitalist system (its mode of production and its superstructure).

2. It is true that working class emancipation rely only on the capacity of this class to emancipate itself, i.e on the possibility to free itsel from all aspects of the ruling class domination. This process relies on the automous struggle of the working class, but it depends also on the understanding of the domination mechanism of the working class. This development may rely on the presence of elements originated from the petite bourgeoisie capable to articulate such understanding.

3. The working class struggle should take into consideration questions related to its demands. Claims for reforms (economic and social reforms) are part of the struggle. It is through them that deeper understanding of the system arise. It should be clear however struggles for reforms constitute means not ends.

4. It is important to realize that the working class is dominated ideologically, i.e it does not have a clear understanding of the mechanism of its oppression. Such understandind requires analysis of the legal and the dominant ideological apparatus (school, church, etc.) but also ways of live, mode of thinking that permeate the working class specially in the advanced capitalits countries (the countries of the centers). For example, consumerism, individualism, machism constitute ideologies that penetrate deeply into the "way of life" of the working class.

5. If it's important that political organizations of the working class (the ones that emerge from the struggles of the working class) maintain dialectical relation with the masses (the nature of that relation has be defined) and the working class, it is also important that those political organizations develop practices related to working people health and education. It is important to understand that the struggle although essentially political to be efficient should adress concrete problems that the working class is facing.

6. Issues facing the working classes in the peripheral countries should be analysed by taking into consideration specific problems that thoses classes face. This debate should consider the realities of those working classes.

author by Jan Makandalpublication date Thu Apr 15, 2010 19:43author address author phone Report this post to the editors

To Todd and Frank
I think this point, in particular, will address both of your concern raised: in appropriation and construction of ideology by Todd and in point number 2 by Frank. Both raised points sharply different but somewhat connected. The section on class instinct/spontaneous struggles and others sections on my presentation did elaborate on the remarks made by you both. I will agree by the way with Frank contribution to the distinction of ideology and theory and the importance for the class to build its theory from struggle and the importance to develop of the nature of capitalist system its mode of productions and superstructure and this in that process by the class to develop its theory that the sharp differences are taking form.

To Todd, the revolutionary proletarian organization is of the working class. It must be constructed in the in the struggles of the working class. The proletarian revolutionary organization is interior of the class, a relationship of interiority and mention in the presentation. The proletarian revolutionary organization is the most advance political structure of the class expressing the most advance political position and alternative: Communism. Being a vanguard party doesn’t dogmatically lead to bureaucraticism. Bureuacraticism and bureaucratic practices are omnipresent in the objective reality, in any relation, even in the most advance relation of interiority. There are objectively no formula, no recipe to fights these ever present tendencies but the struggle itself, the collective ownership of knowledge and a political line constantly defining a proletarian relations in militant relations and in the relations of proletarian revolutionary militant with masses and the mass organizations. Bureaucraticism is an ideological deviation produced in the social arena by many ideological tendencies in which sectarianism is one of them.

To Franck, in much social formation the development of theory not only may but also did rely on the petit bourgeoisie to articulate such understanding. Their contributions will remain limited if the working class itself doesn’t appropriate its theory and integrate the contributions of the petit bourgeoisie. It is at the utmost importance to always put forward this absolute relative truth of the incapacity and the impotence of the petit bourgeoisie to offer a long-term alternative to capitalism. With all their intellectuals might, individually or collectively history has validated this fact. In the event, the revolutionary organization is nascent outside of the struggle of the working class to achieve a relation of interiority a political line needs to be implemented guiding a transition from a proletarian organization for the working class to a proletarian organization of the working class. This is not an easy task politically and ideological. It is a tenuous process, full of contradictions, inherent contradictions and full of complex realities generating their own set of contradictions. The ultimate goal and objective is the actual taking over of the workers of their own struggles and producing their own theories. We still need to keep in mind it is a process abiding by class struggle under the domination of the capitalist class. The two lines struggles, the class struggle will be ever present in the process of constructing a proletarian alternative.

author by Jan Makandalpublication date Fri Apr 16, 2010 19:48author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Todd, Ideology is not consciousness. Consciousness is related to class struggle and determine by class struggle. Social consciousness is determined by the radical transformation of a social formation. Social consciousness is developed dialectically from instinct/perceptual to rational knowledge. Consciousness is the capacity of the class to appropriate capitalism in the struggle against it and at the same time construct its own. Social consciousness is the result of social formation.

Ideological system (structure and practices): the system of ideas, representations, theories, (…) and the system of behaviors, attitudes, customs, ambitions, habits, (…). By constructing its own ideology, I meant the working class needed to develop the concept of collectivity versus individualism, a system of ideas produce by exploitation and domination. These concepts of ideas are constructed in the struggle. To achieve communism, it is at the utmost important that we do break up with the old system of ideology. The paternalistic attachment to leaders, point elaborated at the end of the presentation, clearly describes a new stage we need to enter at the period of imperialism and capitalism. This one of the reason I am insisting of the importance of proletarian alternative, a collective act of the class, an act not guided by any backyard mentality in most cases very dogmatic, empiric and mostly sectarian. All are elements of ideological systems unbecoming of a proletarian alternative.

In the relation between the economic structure and the superstructures (the ideological and political structures), the economic structure, on the whole, fundamentally determines the other structures, even if other structures can be dominant (for a particular stage or globally, for that particular mode of production) or even if the practices that are taking place in the superstructures can lead to the transformation (destruction-construction) of the economic structure itself. We do need to really understand, in a social formation, the dominant mode of productions or economic practices. The dominant form usually and most likely will determine, in a complex setting, the dynamic of that society and mostly the direct impact on the superstructures. In a capitalist mode of productions, bourgeois democracy is the dominant form tendentially this social formation seems to organize itself in order to reproduce. Bourgeois democracy is the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.

Being born is not mechanical, in any scientific fields; it is process in which a determining factors his guiding it. In the case of the working class, it is the relation of capital and labor and capital is the determining factor and followed by its own sets of superstructure. I have elaborated on what makes the working the only capable to defeat capitalism. I really can’t elaborate on a point that is not related to an original taught process.

The lumpen are not exploited at all. The peasantry are dominated and oppressed. The working class is the only class producing in society in exploitative relations.

author by toddpublication date Fri Apr 16, 2010 22:50author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Not sure if I'm misreading you Frank but I think we need to take into account the ways in which ruptures can disrupt the normal flow of consciousness. As limited as it is, the recent miami teacher wildcat shows the way in which struggle can precede consciousness. Teachers broke with electoralism and lobbying through their experiences, and on the news you hear some teachers becoming conscious of the need for direct action and class organizing. Though small that's an example thats repeated throughout history, and gives example for us. I'm not sure how efficacious an understanding of economic theory is to the creation of revolution. Instead we need to understand how ruptures open up space for rapid radicalization and shifts of consciousness and our job as revolutionaries is preparation before and anticipating steps after.

I'm personally somewhat skeptical about strong divisions between core vs peripheral countries. I think these are less categories and more of degrees. Now comparing workers to peasants sure, but I'm not sure workers in argentina are categorically distinct from the US, Germany, or Japan. Again not sure if I'm misreading you here though

author by Frankpublication date Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:24author email cabral_asv at hotmail dot comauthor address author phone Report this post to the editors


Todd, I agree with you that "ruptures can disrupt the normal flow of consciousness". But one has to ask: what kind of cousciouness arises from these ruptures? Is it a cousciousness that allows a deeper understanding of the social system ( in that case capitalism) which may constitute a step toward radicalization? Or is it a cousciousness that produces revolts in order to reform the system? Sure, struggle for reforms may lead to radicalization, but radicalization doest not follow or integrate necessary struggles for reforms. Radicalization arises from specific social, historical contexts, struggles and understandind (theorically) of the system. That understanding is crucial specially in the context of the capitalist social system because the social relation of exploitation and domination is "hidden" by all kind of bourgeois ideologies (freedom and equality for all, individualism, etc.). That understanding allows to demystify these ideologies as universal truth. It allows to understand them as part of a social, historic way of thinking whose final and fundamental objective is to justify bourgeois societies.

As for the specific reality of the workind class in peripheral countries, more reseaches have to done in that field. I think, a difference in degrees exist for sure between working classes realities of countries like Brazil, Argentina (countries considered emerging centers) and countries of the center. But that difference becomes qualitatively distinct for countries of Central America, Africa and East Asia. In this part of the world, working class organizations faces tremendous odds and have to adapt in societies where the working class is historically "underdeveloped", that implies developping strategies (in term of class struggles) that are specific to the reaities of the social situation of the working class and the masses in general.

author by Frank Kabralpublication date Sat Apr 17, 2010 13:43author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Jan, it is true that for the working class to become a revolutionary force it has to appropriate for irself the means necessary to that end, i.e developping its own autonomous organizasions. But since at a certain stage of the struggle, specially when it is required to construct organizasions that would defend the interests of the working class, elements from the petit bourgeoisie are necessary to articulate understanding and to put forward strategies upon which the working class will develop its struggles. At this stage of the struggle, as you said, all kind of contradictions may arise and history shows that the two great revolutions of the 20th century, the soviet and the chineese ones, deteriorate completely, transfonsforming themselves into their opposite: the backward russian bourgeoisie who tooke over after the fall of the soviet system originates from the bureacratic system of the soviet state. Almost the same thing happened in China after Mao's death with the notable difference that the state (state capitalism?) has remained strong and pursue ferociously the establishment of capitalism, and that implies systematic oppression of the chineese working class. History shows also that the masses and the working class under the leadership of revolutionary organizasions can win historic battles, produce revolutions (the vietnamese, the soviet, the chineese revolutions), but when it comes to construct revolutionnary states, very difficult problems arise (most of Lenin writings adress theses problems). The questions before us: how to develop inside the working class (relation of interiority) itself practices that would create conditions that would lead to proletarian organizasion for the working class to proletarian organizasion of the working class?

author by Jan Makandalpublication date Sun Apr 18, 2010 18:57author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Frank, The question is how the transition from a proletarian organization for the working class to a proletarian organization of the working should occurred.
For other readers a succinct clarification, especially from a point raised by Mike Ely on workerism I am not talking about working in factory.

This transition from the for to the of is a question tackled by many proletarians revolutionaries. Mao insisted on the importance of the transformation of the non-proletarian revolutionaries to proletarian revolutionaries. He uses the concept, at least in theory, the need for non-proletarians revolutionaries to disrobe themselves of the petit bourgeoisie at the political and ideological level and transform themselves into proletarian revolutionaries. This transformation by itself is quite limited. Neither the Chinese Communist Party nor the Party of Labor in Vietnam, dominated by non-proletarians revolutionaries, was able to achieve this transformation. Objectively putting proletarian revolutionaries in constant stage of minority. In China, Mao tried to address this gap by initiating the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution with the objective to bring the working class in majority inside the Party. I strongly believed Moa has a lot to do in putting the breaks in the objective of the Proletarian Cultural revolution.

Now, Mao intent was correct but limited due its own opportunism and populism. We need to strive for the transformation of non-proletarians to proletarians revolutionaries but in addition, we must work for the working class to objectively take leadership of their organization. It means if petit bourgeois elements took the initiative to build a proletarian revolutionary organization. This organization must enter a transitional process addressing: The disrobing/transformation of petit bourgeoisie to proletarians revolutionary and the disrobing of the petit bourgeoisie as the perennial militants of that organizations by the taking over by workers of their organizations.

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